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  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Hi all
  sergio salinas porto:hi all
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Hola Sergio
  Heidi Ullrich:Hi All!
  Heidi Ullrich:Gisella is taking a much-deserved evening off. Matt will be doing call management
  Heidi Ullrich:Silvia and I will take notes.
  sergio salinas porto:hola Cheryl!!!!
  Eduardo Diaz:Hola a todos!
  Heidi Ullrich:Can everyone scroll on their own?
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hi All
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:yes
  Heidi Ullrich:Great. Thanks
  Silvia Vivanco:Hello all
  Eduardo Diaz:I am getting connected to the bridge
  sergio salinas porto:hola eduardo...wellcome at the multicultural space!
  Carlton Samuels:Hiya all
  sergio salinas porto:hi carlton
  Carlton Samuels:Yessir, howdy Sergio
  Rudi Vansnick:no problem
  Rudi Vansnick:hip hip hoera for Nathalie
  Carlton Samuels:Congrats!  Let's hope everything goes well
  sergio salinas porto:I apologize but I can not be the entire meeting... sorry :(
  Eduardo Diaz:Saludos Sergio
  sergio salinas porto:@eduardo...abrazos hermano!
  Heidi Ullrich:https://icann-community.icannatlassian.orgnet/wiki/displayspaces/atlarge/pages/99543739/At-Large+Rules+of+Procedure+Duties+and+Metrics+Drafting+Team+Sandbox#comment-36209698
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:page 5 in the space abpve
  sergio salinas porto:hi Dev.)
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Yes  that call was 0100 local time for Holly
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:there are partss of the current ROP 5  that  could be worthy of putting in to positionb doiscritions  5 currently refers to Liaisons  but some of then 5.6  etc.,  are 'relevant to *all*  ALAC and those who Represent for ALAC
  Carlton Samuels:No paper signing, just a simple affirmative statement that a member abide by the rule!
  Carlton Samuels:*rules*
  Heidi Ullrich:https://icann-community.icannatlassian.orgnet/wiki/displayspaces/atlarge/pages/99543739/At-Large+Rules+of+Procedure+Duties+and+Metrics+Drafting+Team+Sandbox#comment-36211871
  Heidi Ullrich:20 September: https://icann-community.icannatlassian.orgnet/wiki/displayspaces/atlarge/pages/99543739/At-Large+Rules+of+Procedure+Duties+and+Metrics+Drafting+Team+Sandbox#comment-36213101
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yep annex Annex Annex
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:One way os to have some listed MINIMUM  standards/ expectations  
  Eduardo Diaz:HAve you notice that I changed the word performance for expectations in the discusion paper?
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:YES   I like that  Edwardo   :-)
  Heidi Ullrich:Tijani, Adigo is dialing you now
  Heidi Ullrich:Alan will wait until you are back
  Heidi Ullrich:Tijani, Dev is speaking at the moment.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:developed  BY the ALAC  I
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:'d have thought
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:they should be approved docs
  Tijani BEN JEMAA:I'm back
  Rudi Vansnick:i thought resigning is always possible
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Promotion OUT of usefullness   but into a hrmless role => yup
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:or at least mostly harmless  role
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Is what's shown in the AC room the correct document?
  Eduardo Diaz:wrong document showing
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yup  no numbers in this prep piece
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I thought it was this document being discussed : https://icann-community.icannatlassian.orgnet/wiki/download/attachments/36212655/Metrics+and+Remediations99542990/Metrics%20and%20Remediations-DiscussionPaper.pdf?version=2&modificationDate=1349113227868
  Rudi Vansnick:agree with Holly except if the meetings are of such importance you can/may not mis them
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yup  that is right
  Rudi Vansnick:so i would add a criteria to the meeting so the weight is having some importance in the measurements
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:don't call it red flag. Make it Amber. Amber's more suitable for flagging something
  Rudi Vansnick:Amber is close to Orange ;-)
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I'd  suggest  WG/Committees are as well as  but not interchangeable  with this minimum set of requirements
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:but  yes ZIF you take a role you MUST perform
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:and NIN POerformance should  be able to "flag" as an issue
  Rudi Vansnick:certainly when ICANN is paying for the presence of the individual
  Heidi Ullrich:Yaovi, you dropped
  Heidi Ullrich:Adigo is dialing you back
  Yaovi Atohoun:I am disconnected
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Yes remember  a LEADERSHIP role  in a WG  is not  "just a Member of the WG"  you are  REPRESENTING the ALAC in the WG
  Yaovi Atohoun:I am back
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:the issue  did then also become an issue where several people attended a session  eytc.,
  Eduardo Diaz:There is something about this in the discusion  paper but for people that are chairing WG only
  Rudi Vansnick:reports are important for the archives especially when newcomers are willing to know why such or such was discussed and decided
  sergio salinas porto:I am sorry I must withdraw from the room. See you in toropnto
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Rudi  in the case you cote  so are the actual meeting Records
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:perhaps
  Eduardo Diaz:Adios Sergio
  sergio salinas porto:chau amigos
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:lost me :-(
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:but you got where ai wqs heading
  Heidi Ullrich:Cheryl, dialing now
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:back
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:or even an ORAL  report under AOB on an ALAC meeting to follow
  Heidi Ullrich:Staff create a spot for meeting reports on every ICANN Meeting workspace: https://icann-community.icannatlassian.orgnet/wiki/displayspaces/atlarge/pages/99543269/ICANN+45+-+At-Large+Toronto+Meeting+-+October+2012
  Heidi Ullrich:The links to these reports are also included in the Chair's report.
  Heidi Ullrich:If people sent emails, staff could add them to  the wiki pages
  Holly Raiche:I've been cut off- [lease call me back - thanks
  Heidi Ullrich:Dialing Holly now
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:they dropped all of us in Aus...
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I'd be interested in the geneology   ;-)
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:and I have had my "writ virtually slapped"  for over reporting  in real time from an ICANN meeting sesion that I foiund fascinating and attended for ALAC
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:writ = wrist
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes higher threshold
  Tijani BEN JEMAA:I knno consistent substenceow exempes of very noisy people n the lists with almost
  Tijani BEN JEMAA:Sorry, my keyboard
  Tijani BEN JEMAA:I know exempes of very noisy people on the lists with almost  no consistent substence
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:ooops. Just got dropped
  Heidi Ullrich:will dial you back
  Matt Ashtiani:New SOI Page - https://icann-community.icannatlassian.orgnet/wiki/x/jg8QAgtPXuBQ
  Heidi Ullrich:Alan, you are reading my  mind ;)
  Heidi Ullrich:15 mins left
  Carlton Samuels:FWIW, I don't think a count is worth a warm bucket of spit as a measure of 'performance' or 'contribution'. Sure, A count might be an indicator. The question is for what?  Or, to what?
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:YUP   Car;ton  we need to look at a whole cake not just an ingredient
  Carlton Samuels:+1 to CLO: Even better!!
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I did only wonder if the 2/3rd  would  ensure ni Regional Bias  or bind
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:perhaos this is a Super Majority and / or all Regions
  Carlton Samuels:I think the disqualification vote MUST be a supermajority!
  Carlton Samuels:The 2/3rd for a disqualificaton vote is necessary to avoid bias or bind!
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Remember we might have an ALAC of only 12 or 13  not just 14 at the time of such a Vote
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:so someon needs to think about the numbers here carefully
  Carlton Samuels:Hmmm.  So let's make it clear with language that says members qulaified to vote at that time.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:just want to preemptivly close a potential loop hole
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:just soem Examples
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Up to the Chair and the Director of At-Large
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:BITH
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:BOTH
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:dropped
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:the trust between these two should allow it to be properly decided
  Heidi Ullrich:Dropped. but I believe you meant to say the trust between Chair and Director.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:and I think ghe opposite should apply
  Carlton Samuels:It should say the Chair and Director should have a go!
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Thanks  Alan and Edwardo
  Carlton Samuels:Thanks all.  See y'all
  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks !
  Matt Ashtiani:thanks everyone
  Rudi Vansnick:bye
  Heidi Ullrich:The note pod is full!
  Silvia Vivanco:Thank you!
  Holly Raiche:Cut off again - but the call is ending so I"ll say goodbye
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:take care all
  Sylvia Herlein:hello
  Sylvia Herlein:me estoy comunicando por skype con algunos miembros
  Sylvia Herlein:sorry, wrong room