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Sub-Group Members: Avri Doria, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Jonathan Zuck, Par Brumark, Rudi Daniel, Samantha Eisner, Steve DelBianco
Staff: Alice Jansen, Berry Cobb, Brenda Brewer
Apologies:
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Transcript
Recording
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Proposed AgendaNotes
Action Items
Documents Presented
Applying Stress Tests Draft v10 2-MW.pdf
Chat Transcript
Brenda Brewer: (4/29/2015 05:36) Welcome to the Stress Tests Working Party Meeting # 5 on 29 April at 11:00 UTC! Please note that chat sessions are being archived and follow the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior: http://www.icann.org/en/news/in-focus/accountability/expected-standards
Pär Brumark (GAC Niue): (05:57) Hi !
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (05:58) Hi all...
Brenda Brewer: (06:05) None
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (06:06) works for me @Steve nithing wring with a speedy meeting... :-)
Rudi Daniel: (06:10) Good Morning all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (06:10) Hi Rudi
Jonathan Zuck (IPC): (06:13) I can read
Avri Doria: (06:15) if we are going to include the spilling the board might as well include the long arm of the law.
Jonathan Zuck (IPC): (06:15) that's middle column!
Rudi Daniel: (06:15) I would have no objection adding the blue text
Pär Brumark (GAC Niue): (06:16) The text is fine!
Jonathan Zuck (IPC): (06:16) since we're talking about corruption, should we add "behanding" as an accountability mechanism that is not "nuclear"
Jonathan Zuck (IPC): (06:18) "risk mitigation?"
Avri Doria: (06:19) further mitigation
Rudi Daniel: (06:19) remove preventative ? does not make sense to me??
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (06:20) WS2 suggestions might provide risk mitigation measures
Rudi Daniel: (06:20) OK....risk miti...yes
Avri Doria: (06:20) checking the dictionary i see that mitigation can be anticipatory
Jonathan Zuck (IPC): (06:21) you didn't BELIEVE me?!
Avri Doria: (06:21) don't know, it is a american one.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (06:21) :-)
Avri Doria: (06:21) nor would the ccTLD manager wnat us to.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (06:24) indeed @Avri :-)
Samantha Eisner: (06:26) Reconsideration and IRPs
Samantha Eisner: (06:26) Agree Steve
Rudi Daniel: (06:26) agree
Rudi Daniel: (06:31) diff. standards would seem to be a orob
Rudi Daniel: (06:31) prob. statement.....
Samantha Eisner: (06:33) Is it WS2 or WS2 or future ATRT reviews?
Avri Doria: (06:33) good point Sam
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (06:34) good point Sam it could be WS2 and future Review Panels may need to consider future 'Standards of Review'...
Rudi Daniel: (06:35) ahh. I agree completely with you....
Avri Doria: (06:38) well frivolous and vexatious are different
Avri Doria: (06:39) and the dictionary say that vexatious is a trending word for defintion searches
Rudi Daniel: (06:42) :)
Alice Jansen: (06:43) no abusive in Reconsideration language, frivolous only
Avri Doria: (06:44) page?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (06:45) Nited Alice, but I do not think that limits us where we are effectivly refering to both Recoins and IRPs that in the edit text we mentioning both 'frivolous and abusive'
Alice Jansen: (06:45) frivolous and abusive p 45 of v4.2
Avri Doria: (06:45) Alice, thanks.
Alice Jansen: (06:45) frivolous p 46 ( no abusive)
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (06:46) Proposed measures would reduce risk by supermajority requirements and by dismissla of frivolous or abusive RR and IRPs
Rudi Daniel: (06:48) (by super majority requirements)....no sure I comprehend that
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (06:50) Proposed measures would could increase risk of individuals paralyzing ICANN processes, which is mitigated by dismissal of frivolous or abusive RR and IRPs
Rudi Daniel: (06:52) S.....
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (06:53) Improved access to review and redress could allow indivdual to affect ICANN processes, which is mitigated by dismissal of frivolous or abusive RR and IRPs
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (06:54) Improved access to review and redress could allow indivdual to block ICANN processes, which is mitigated by dismissal of frivolous or abusive RR and IRPs
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (06:55) Improved access to review and redress could allow indivdual to overload ICANN processes, though this is mitigated by dismissal of frivolous or abusive RR and IRPs
Samantha Eisner: (06:57) improperly impede
Samantha Eisner: (06:58) "improperly impede or interfere"
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (06:59) Improved access to review and redress could allow indivdual to impede ICANN processes, though this is mitigated by dismissal of frivolous or abusive RR and IRPs
Rudi Daniel: (07:00) yup....OK
Pär Brumark (GAC Niue): (07:05) +1
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (07:06) Yes I also suppoirt this way forward and again beleive it needs to go up front of the section...
Jonathan Zuck (IPC): (07:07) Personally, I love the overarching language about "accountability" versus absolute prevention. The idea of a DIY sound condescending and realy redundant. Hard to say something new.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (07:08) so can we again discuss this as proposed Text (steve can own the AI to prep the starting text) online and then we can sign off on both in next weeks call then...
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (07:08) Well we would not describe it as a DIY... Jonathan
Jonathan Zuck (IPC): (07:09) that's the source of the dictionary checking...
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (07:09) LOL
Alice Jansen: (07:10) 05 UTC
Rudi Daniel: (07:11) good...the
Pär Brumark (GAC Niue): (07:11) Thx!