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Sub-Group Members: Athina Fragkouli, Avri Doria, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Finn Petersen, Izumi Okutani, Jonathan Zuck, Julia Wolman, Par Brumark, Steve DelBianco
Staff: Alice Jansen, Samantha Eisner, Berry Cobb, Brenda Brewer
Apologies:
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Transcript
Recording
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The audio recording is available here: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-stress-tests-1100-15apr15-en.mp3
Notes
Action Items
Documents Presented
Chat Transcript
Brenda Brewer: (4/15/2015 05:45) Welcome to the Accountability Stress Tests WP meeting #4 on 15 April.
Brenda Brewer: (05:45) Please note that chat sessions are being archived and follow the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior: http://www.icann.org/en/news/in-focus/accountability/expected-standards
Pär Brumark (GAC Niue): (06:01) Hi all!
Brenda Brewer: (06:03) you have everyone in Adobe
Brenda Brewer: (06:03) no apologies
Alice Jansen: (06:04) V9 - https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/52232556/Applying%20Stress%20Tests%20%5BDraft%20v9%5D.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1427783848000&api=v2
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (06:04) I;ve noted that
Izumi Okutani (ASO): (06:12) Sorry for not being upto date with the agenda, may I confirm which ST# are we talking about?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (06:12) Several but #17 is a good example all those hat are effected by a risk of Board Inaction
Izumi Okutani (ASO): (06:13) OK thanks Cheryl!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (06:13) 3,4,29, 11 +17
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (06:16) ohh and 27
Izumi Okutani (ASO): (06:16) thanks for the comprehensive list
Avri Doria: (06:18) do not know if it is relevant to stress test discussions, but as we drift away from being a consensus based organization to a voting organization are we moving into ta tyrnanny of the majority model.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (06:19) and well OUT of my pesonal confort zone ;-)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (06:24) These are ST's #3, 4, 19, 10 & 20
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (06:24) Also 15
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (06:28) Action Item just noted in discussion pod re Community Veto is incorrect it shiuld read next version of the ST Doc will NOT have the text shown as strikerhrough
Athina Fragkouli (ASO): (06:28) apologies if I am bringing up an issue that has been discussed and sorted out in a previous call, but I would like to ask why forcing the board to respond to ACs's advise should be a WS1 item.
Izumi Okutani (ASO): (06:28) ST #18 makes sense to me
Finn Petersen, GAC - DK: (06:28) you are not alone! Steve
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (06:29) that weekend document that Avri and I worked on is here https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/52888421/2015-04-13-PreservingAoCCommitmentsinICANNBylaws-submitted.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1428927271000&api=v2
Izumi Okutani (ASO): (06:29) seems like a reasonable solution respecting GAC's possible changes in their definition of consensus
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (06:29) Right, Izumi. But I am not confident that EU GAC reps appreciate the compromise.
Izumi Okutani (ASO): (06:30) Same situation for me, I missed the CCWG call yesterday, so once we are done with the planned agenda would be nice to have little more background on the need to address board's inacction-
Izumi Okutani (ASO): (06:30) Noted Steve about EU GAC reps
Athina Fragkouli (ASO): (06:32) thanks Steve
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (06:33) Noted Izumi we will round back to thsat for you and I will ask Jonathan to lead on this for us...
Izumi Okutani (ASO): (06:33) thanks Cheryl
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (06:35) % & ^ are related to Financial Crisis 5 is specific to the DNS Industry
Finn Petersen, GAC - DK: (06:35) ST 21 should amending in light af CCWG remarks concering appeal mechanism and respect national legislation on redelegation
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (06:35) argh should read #5 & 6
Izumi Okutani (ASO): (06:36) It's consistent with my understanding, not about the probability. Thanks Steve for explaining this to GAO . When submitting it, it may be worth clearly describing the intention that this is not able probabllity.
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (06:36) True, Izumi. Should we add to page 1, under the charter
Izumi Okutani (ASO): (06:36) good idea
Finn Petersen, GAC - DK: (06:37) i am in the AirPort and Can not speak
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (06:37) ST 21 is on page 5 of the doc
Finn Petersen, GAC - DK: (06:38) CCWG should have been CWG
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (06:39) @Finn -- is that edit in first paragraph of the Proposed measures?
Finn Petersen, GAC - DK: (06:39) sorry i am on my Way to gccs2015 in the Haague
Julia Wolman GAC Denmark: (06:40) In relation to Finn's comment: In light of the answer from the CWG (sent to the CCWG list by Mathieu) with regard to their expectations from the CCWG, I would like to ask what effect this will have on ST21. In this regard I would like to point to the importance of taking into account the GAC principles
Pär Brumark (GAC Niue): (06:41) +1 Julia
Julia Wolman GAC Denmark: (06:45) Yes thank you:-), wording is important and so is reference to the GAC principles
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (06:50) Please do
Julia Wolman GAC Denmark: (06:50) For the record this issue has not yet been discussed in the GAC
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (06:50) nothing more from me
Izumi Okutani (ASO): (06:54) OK great
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (06:54) Perfect Thanks Joinathasn...
Izumi Okutani (ASO): (06:54) thanks
Alice Jansen: (06:54) Meeting transcript - https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/52892510/Transcript%20Stress%20Tests%20WP%20Meeting%20%233%208%20April.doc?version=1&modificationDate=1428616916000&api=v2
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (06:54) Ohh more letters than in my usual typos (sorry Jonathan)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (06:55) Thanks Alice...
Izumi Okutani (ASO): (06:58) Understood. thanks for the update - as a quick observation I'm not sure how criteircal it is not to address it immediately but I think would be desriable to be addressed with some small changes
Avri Doria: (06:58) 9.1. ICANN Bylaws Article XI should be amended to include the followinglanguage to mandate Board Response to Advisory Committee Formal Advice:The ICANN Board will respond in a timely manner to formal advicefrom all Advisory Committees, explaining what action it took and therationale for doing so.
Samantha Eisner 2: (06:59) @Jonathan, I agree that there has to be requirement in the bylaws (like the ATRT9.1 implementation that is underway) in order to require the board to look at advice/have teeth to enforce not looking at the advice
Avri Doria: (07:00) Note the 9.1 recommendations does allow the consideration of AC advice to rise to the level of GAC advice.
Pär Brumark (GAC Niue): (07:01) Thx all!
Julia Wolman GAC Denmark: (07:03) Thank you all, bye
Athina Fragkouli (ASO): (07:03) bye
Izumi Okutani (ASO): (07:03) Thanks Cheryl Steve all. Thanks Jonathan for the update!