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Sub-Group Members: David McAuley, Edward Morris, Greg Shatan, Leon Sanchez, Par Brumark, Robin Gross, Samantha Eisner
Guests: Cameron Kerry, Edward McNicholas, Holly Gregory, Rich Boucher, Josh Hofheimer, Janet Zagorin
Staff: Alice Jansen, Brenda Brewer, Theresa Swinehart
Apologies:
**Please let Brenda know if your name has been left off the list (attendees or apologies).**
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Proposed Agenda
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Chat Transcript
Brenda Brewer: (3/10/2015 16:43) Hello all! Welcome to the CCWG Accountability Legal SubTeam call on 10 March at 22:00 UTC.
Alice Jansen 5: (16:55) Chat sessions are being archived and follow the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior: http://www.icann.org/en/news/in-focus/accountability/expected-standards
Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (16:59) draft of Legal Scoping document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/132V7P8nmyalhoso7zcevjW3_ox1laXn5JIEH3dDAF3A/edit#
David McAuley: (17:04) few min to call in
David McAuley: (17:06) ok on phone
Brenda Brewer: (17:07) Joshua Hofheimer and Rick Boucher are on phone line
Brenda Brewer: (17:09) Theresa is on phone line now
Holly Gregory 2: (17:12) We have two additional persons on the line that we would like to introduce -- Joshua Hofheimer and Rick Boucher
Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (17:16) Important to know our task is not only because the NTIA contract has a window of opportunity for opening - it is also because ICANN's accountability mechanisms are generally regarded as inadequate (irrespective of NTIA contract)
Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (17:18) Current timeline will most likely need to be adjusted since the community won't have reached sufficient consensus or exploration of issues on the timeline suggested now.
Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (17:20) Q: what is the firm's understanding of its duty of loyalty to ICANN, the corporation (as opposed to CWG)?
David McAuley: (17:20) Thanks Holly - the directive letter itelf would be public I take it
David McAuley: (17:20) i.e. the directive from ICANN to Sidley to take all direction, give advice to CCWG/CWG
Holly Gregory 2: (17:21) Yes --
David McAuley: (17:21) thanx
David McAuley: (17:29) This kind of clarity is in our interest (CCWG) as well altho we should mention it to CCWG generally, in my opinion
Pär Brumark (GAC): (17:30) Agree
David McAuley: (17:32) March 23-24 with some pre meetings Sunday 22nd
David McAuley: (17:33) Istanbul for 23rd-24th
Samantha Eisner: (17:33) Same location as the CWG session
Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (17:35) proposed timeframe is questionable by many in the community
Alice Jansen: (17:36) Also available here - https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/50823981/CWG-CCWG_timeline_20150303.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1425369129000&api=v2
Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (17:37) the community's priority it getting it right. not meeting an arbitrary timeline.
Edward Morris: (17:37) I think it's important to recognize that these deadlines are very likely going to be extended.
Edward Morris: (17:37) Out of necesity.
David McAuley: (17:39) Holly, have you had a timeline discussion with CWG - how did that come out
Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (17:40) I agree that takes time. This is complicated. We are building a global governance institution. We can't do it right in the timeline proposed.
David McAuley: (17:40) This discussion underscores importance of attendance in Istanbul
Holly Gregory 2: (17:41) we have not had a specific time line discussion at this level of detail
David McAuley: (17:41) thanx
David McAuley: (17:44) glad you brought mechanisms up Leon
David McAuley: (17:46) sounds fine
Leon Sanchez: (17:46) :-)
Edward Morris: (17:50) Holly, some of our proposals concern restructuring ICANN into a membership or delegate based organization. Do you have any experience in this type of restructuring?
Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (17:52) Q: how is workload balanced in the firm between partners and associates doing the work in this matter?
David McAuley: (17:59) Good points Greg – I too am one who sees scales tipping in favor of advantages of having one firm
Leon Sanchez: (18:00) +1
Leon Sanchez: (18:02) good
Leon Sanchez: (18:02) I like non-billing :-)
Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (18:03) Thanks! My concern is more about making sure the expertise is of a high level, given the stakes in this matter.
Leon Sanchez: (18:03) Excellent point Robin
Holly Gregory 2: (18:04) Thanks Robin
David McAuley: (18:06) Cam has hand up
Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (18:08) Hi Rick! We met about a decade ago when you were in congress working on the right side of Internet issues!
Leon Sanchez: (18:08) @Cameron we'll go to you after Rick
Edward McNicholas, Sidley: (18:09) Sorry; did not see that Cam has joined.
Cameron Kerry: (18:10) thanks
Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (18:16) thanks to the firm for taking time to speak with us!
Samantha Eisner: (18:18) If there is a decision to engage Sidley, I can share (which I will in any event) the engagement letter that has been entered into with teh CWG, for information
David McAuley: (18:19) Good point - thanks Sam
David McAuley: (18:21) Thanks Leon. This was very informative and helpful – thanks to Holly and her team.
Edward McNicholas, Sidley: (18:22) Many thanks for allowing us an opportunity to present our credentials and speak with the CCWG today.
Edward Morris: (18:22) Thanks everybody.
Pär Brumark (GAC): (18:22) Thank you all!
Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (18:22) thanks, all. bye!
Holly Gregory 2: (18:22) thanks and good evening.