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  Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome to the ALAC ExCom call on Wednesday 26 September at 1300 UTC
  Gisella Gruber-White:Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/LIwoAg
  Tijani BEN JEMAA:Hi Gisella
  Gisella Gruber-White:Action Items ExCom 17 September: https://community.icann.org/x/6ocoAg
  Gisella Gruber-White:Action Items ALAC 25 September 2012: https://community.icann.org/x/iYsoAg
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Hello, Olivier.  I have to leave sometime between 30-45 minutes into the call.
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:ok Rinalia thanks for the advance warning
  Heidi Ullrich:Hi All!
  Tijani BEN JEMAA:Hi Heidi
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:There is a buzzing noise in the background.
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Like a toy airplane.
  Tijani BEN JEMAA:yes, and I tried to mute myself, and it remains
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:It's gone now.
  Tijani BEN JEMAA:so it's not my line
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Back again - the noise.
  Heidi Ullrich:It went away and now is back
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Can we start?
  Silvia Vivanco:Hello everyone
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:can we get rid of this drilling sound?
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:good thanks
  Heidi Ullrich:https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+2012.09.25+-+Action+Items+EN - ALAC AIs
  Heidi Ullrich:https://community.icann.org/display/alacexcomm/ALAC+ExCom+17.09.12+Action+Items - 17 Sept AIs
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:item 2 of open action items can be closed.
  Evan Leibovitch:R3 vote closes tomorrow
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Push it out via email
  Gisella Gruber-White:We are still trying to get hold of Cheryl
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:I have no information on this.
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:It was supposed to be taken up in the APRALO meeting.
  Gisella Gruber-White:Matt has joined us
  Heidi Ullrich:Olivier, do you expect this to be addressed significantly in Toronto? In the RRR WG?
  Heidi Ullrich:Evan, can you please repeat the question that is being asked?
  Heidi Ullrich:I have a briefing with Fadi today and will bring this up.
  Evan Leibovitch:The question, specifically, is "is RAA 3.7.8, in its current form, fully enfporceable?
  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, Evan.
  Evan Leibovitch:We have received extremely evasive answers (and most recently non-answers) to this question previously
  Heidi Ullrich:However, the RAA is currently being negotiated...
  Heidi Ullrich:so could that be one of the reasons no definitive answer is being provided?
  Evan Leibovitch:Correct, but there is a sibstantial backlog of reported problems based on the current one
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:IDNccTLD String Selection: I have a draft statement ready.  Awaiting Edmon's input before floating to the IDN WG.
  Evan Leibovitch:IE, alleged breaches that have not been followed up
  Evan Leibovitch:(or just dropped)
  Heidi Ullrich:ok, thanks.
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Question on budget comments - when will the draft be circulated, Tijani?
  Matt Ashtiani:https://community.icann.org/x/-Y8oAg
  Heidi Ullrich:JIT, Matt ;)
  Heidi Ullrich:Will this topic be discussed during the Sunday session in Toronto under "Hot Topics"?
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:So, budget tomorrow and strategic plan later.
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:yes
  Heidi Ullrich:Is this ok?
  Heidi Ullrich:Rinalia Abdul Rahim: So, budget tomorrow and strategic plan later.
  Heidi Ullrich:Sorry
  Evan Leibovitch:IMO: STrategic plan is a waste of time. It's a collection of motherhood statements that is more ignored than followed
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim::)
  Tijani BEN JEMAA:Rinalia, tomorrw, I will circulate the draft comment on the planning process
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:OK.  Thank you, Tijani..
  Tijani BEN JEMAA:you know, the one Olivier circulated a few days ago for the FBSC
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:YES!  I am waiting for that!!
  Heidi Ullrich:AI: Staff to send a note to the ALAC and At-Large regional leaders that they should read the draft Strategic Plan and the draft ALAC statement before arriving in Toronto.
  Heidi Ullrich:Is that ok?
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:We have more input on the RC issues on the wiki.
  Tijani BEN JEMAA:yes, and announce that it will be discussed in Toronto
  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, Tijani. Good Point.
  Tijani BEN JEMAA:it was for Heidi
  Heidi Ullrich:https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+2012.09.25+-+Monthly+Teleconference - ALAC agenda
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:We still need to send a statement to the Board.
  Heidi Ullrich:We are trying our best :)
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Oh?  I thought OCL is subscribed to all the WGs!
  Gisella Gruber-White:Cheryl has joined the call
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I am just being modest. :-)
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:haha
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I thought we're *all* subscribed to all WGs :-)
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Not me.  Thank you.
  Tijani BEN JEMAA:yes, hdid
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Necessary intervention, Evan.
  Tijani BEN JEMAA:@Olivier, I'm on all of them
  Evan Leibovitch:see sp[ecificcally the email thread with the subject "WHOIS-WG] Fwd: ICANN News Alert -- Update on Registrar Accreditation Agreement Amendments"
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Actually, Tijani, you are not subscribed to the IDN WG list.  I just checked.
  Tijani BEN JEMAA:nooo
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim::)  I do not lie.  I have the list!
  Tijani BEN JEMAA:I mean I'm on all the RoP and Metrics WGs
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:ah...now I see. :)
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Alan  has a loy of History  in this  OCL
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:thanks Cheryl -- it is a shame that Alan's unable to be here today
  Tijani BEN JEMAA:it's not a shame, it's a pity
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:pity yes
  Evan Leibovitch:please bring this up in the meeting with Fadi
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:It is interesting that different "communities" are addressing the multistakeholder model in TOronto, which clashes with everything else.
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:GAC, NPOC,...
  Evan Leibovitch:I would like to participate in anything else for which I dont have a direct conflict.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Yrio  wouod  be perfect
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:It won't clash with opening ceremony.
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:It starts at 10.30am.
  Heidi Ullrich:The opening ceremony will be very interesting!
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Sorry, I mean GAC HL meeting starts at 11am.
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Yrjo and JJS are both fine.
  Heidi Ullrich:https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+GAC+High+Level+Meeting+Workspace
  Heidi Ullrich:Preliminary agenda is posted on this workspace.
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:I don't see anything specific like that.  The topics are quite general.
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Like Governments and ICANN
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr: general topics
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:or ICANN and the global internet community
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:It is very very general.
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Note!  The meeting is ONLY open to other members of the community after lunch!!
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Sure, but only governments are invited to that, Evan.
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:I think it would be nice to be able to participate in all the sessions.
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:on Monday I was told it was open to all
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Please re-check again.
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Staff pls check that with GAC folks.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I thought Heather  has suggested  Yrio
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:so he (or JJS)  would have invited observer stateus any wAY
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:yes
  Heidi Ullrich:At-Large agendas are being finalized today
  Heidi Ullrich:and will be sent to translation
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:worth keeping on that matter  but it is a hasten slowely matter IMO
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:that is enough
  Heidi Ullrich:There are two conflated issues.[9/21/2012 2:40:15 PM] Evan Leibovitch: 1) The control of a dictionary word by a private organization[9/21/2012 2:40:31 PM] Evan Leibovitch: 2) The "privatization" of a TLD
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes  those 2
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:We all remember.
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:It's in the skype chat.
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:the skype chat is not official record
  Heidi Ullrich:Mine are:1) Public confidence in ICANN (which includes Compliance and WHOIS, and can touch on WCIT)2) Name protection (which includes IOC / RC / UDRP)[9/19/2012 1:08:45 PM | Edited 1:09:07 PM] Evan Leibovitch: I'm offering two under the assumption that they shouldn't be allowed to drop topics *we* see as important.[9/19/2012 1:10:16 PM] Evan Leibovitch: @Rinalia -- I have no explanation for my country's increasingly bizarre immigration and refugee protocols.[9/19/2012 1:12:38 PM | Edited 1:12:53 PM] Evan Leibovitch: I would like as an outcome, if possible, a joint statement encouraging ICANN's changes in the compliance realm and insistiung on results. That may be too much to ask, given the GAC's pre-occupation in Toronto on objection matters, but I can still try.
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Extract it then.
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:tha
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Thanks Heidi
  Heidi Ullrich:Without thinking too deeply about it and just for brainstorming purposes: 1) WCIT 2) Red Cross vs. IOC 3) new gTLD Objections or WHOIS.[9/19/2012 11:54:12 AM] Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: & 4) compliance too?[9/19/2012 11:54:55 AM] Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: re: hierarchy on ExCom, I think this will be treated by RoP WG -- it has already been discussed. I don't know to what extent the positions will be focussed on or left open
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:This one is mine (above)
  Heidi Ullrich:The text above is from Rinalia and then Olivier.
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:It's here now.
  Heidi Ullrich:I can add these to the wiki page for questions to the GAC
  Heidi Ullrich:apologies. I should have done that earlier.
  Heidi Ullrich:Evan then listed top two:
  Heidi Ullrich:Mine are:1) Public confidence in ICANN (which includes Compliance and WHOIS, and can touch on WCIT)2) Name protection (which includes IOC / RC / UDRP)
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:YOu must do WCIT.
  Heidi Ullrich:EVan, should I list only these two on the wiki?
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yup those 2
  Heidi Ullrich:thanks, Olivier.
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:While we are on liaisons - you coudl also float candidates.  
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye  safe travels
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:yes RInalia