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Sub-group Members: Alan Greenberg, Avri Doria, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Farzaneh Badii, Jorge Villa, Julf Helsingius, Kavouss Arasteh, Mary Uduma, Rinalia Adbul Abdul Rahim, Samantha Eisner, Sebastien Bachollet, Steve DelBianco, Tatiana Tropina, Tom Dale
Staff: Brenda Brewer, Karen Mulberry, Alice Jansen
Apologies: Greg Shatan, Seun Ojedeji
**Please let Brenda know if your name has been left off the list (attendees or apologies).**
Transcript
Recording
The Adobe Connect recording is available here: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p3agamc1hwc/
The audio recording is available here: http://audio.icann.org/accountability/ccwg-accountability-08sep16-en.mp3
Agenda
0. Call Admin and Roll Call / Apologies
1. Welcome - Opening Remarks
2. Review (brief) of last call #5 and any Action Items / Business Arising
3. Discussion Topics
• What are the current SO/AC Accountability mechanisms (group discussion)
o Possible Formal Request or List of Questions to go to the Leadership of each SO/AC - a proposal to the CCWG Plenary next week?
• How do we interpret "working plan" for enhancing SO/AC Accountability
o The new bylaws on SOAC Accountability
4. AOB / Next Meeting
Notes
Review (brief) of last call #5 and any Action Items / Business Arising?
- Reviewed text from Annex 10 and the presenttion to the Plenary to address accountability both internal and external .
- External describes as eveyone who is not part of the target constituencies for a community
- Need to be careful as to how captureing what is meant in using the term exrernal
What are the current SO/AC Accountability mechanisms?
- Continued discussion of who are we accountable to
- Need to formulate the question to gather information regarding accountability and then will send to the SO/AC leadership for discussion within their groups
- How do we interpret "working plan" for enhancing SO/AC Accountability
- Asking for comments and ideas as to what the plan should entail
- SO/AC Accountability per WS2 Bylaw review and develop … to the extent set forth in the CCWG-Accountability Final Report:
(iii) Supporting Organization and Advisory Commitee accountability, including but not limited to improved processes for accountability,
transparency, andparticipationn that are helpful to prevent capture
- review and develop are key terms
question noted regarding review
ACTION ITEM - draft text of questions based on the bylaws charter for our group (slide on the screen), plus Recc 10 and 12 (also in the slides). Question to ask
each SO/AC about their accountability mechanisms pending review of the staff paper
Next call is on 15 Sept at 1300 UTC
Action Items
ACTION ITEM - draft text of questions based on the bylaws charter for our group (slide on the screen), plus Recc 10 and 12 (also in the slides). Question to ask
each SO/AC about their accountability mechanisms pending review of the staff paper
Documents Presented
Chat Transcript
Brenda Brewer:Good day all and welcome to SO/AC Accountability Subgroup Meeting #6 on Thursday, 8 September @ 05:00 UTC!
Kavouss Arasteh:HI bRENDA
Kavouss Arasteh:hI kAREN
Brenda Brewer 2:Hello Kavouss!
Kavouss Arasteh:sORRY FOR CAP
Kavouss Arasteh:Dear Co- Chairs
Kavouss Arasteh:good time pls, a) DO NOT INTERRUP ANY SPEAKER AND 2, PLS DO NOT MONOPOLIZE MICROPHONE
Julf Helsingius (GNSO NCPH NCA):Nice music!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):there is Music?
Alan Greenberg:No music here...
Farzaneh Badii:there was at some point :)
Tatiana Tropina:hi all
Julf Helsingius (GNSO NCPH NCA):there was a brief spot of classical piano music
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]:Those words were not put in the bylaws, Kavouss. We are using those words here in our group . If not helpful, we can use other terms
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):That is almost the sam question as Alan just asked I beleive Kavous
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):sam = same
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]:First circle is active members. Second circle is target of all possible members. Third circle is everyone else?
Alan Greenberg:They are not necesaily concetric. Some will be overlapping/intersecting
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):argh sorry my computer just crashed... using tablet now while I try to reboot
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: Alan -- I think I heard you say you were prepared to describe ALAC's Accountability Mechanisms. Is that right?
Kavouss Arasteh:Steve+1
Kavouss Arasteh:Alan11
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Briefly of course Alan ;-)
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]:Question for Alan: Does At-Large have a procedures document, charter, or other document where this is described
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):?The ALAC RoP's go ad nauseum on process for selection of these roles
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):and to a lesser extent the RALO ones do as well
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]:would you say the main mechanisms are: 1)elections and 2) participation?
Alan Greenberg:To be clear, I was talking about the "At-Large Community" as defined in the ICANN Bylaws.
Alan Greenberg:That was not "the ALAC Answer". tHAT WAS PURELY MY PERCEPTION.
Alan Greenberg:Sorry for caps
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes Seb we said we would ask questions of each AC SO
Sebastien (ALAC):Thanks CLO
Sebastien (ALAC):No pb Alan, was useful
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):thx STEVE
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):sorry caps
Alan Greenberg:You can never eliminate capture unless you can ensure that individual parts of the organization do not abdicate om their responsibility to participate.
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]:Yes, Kavouss. The "review" part is telling us to look at the existing processes
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]:+1 Alan
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):exactly Alan
Alan Greenberg:I'm not sure we are here to make recommendations to each AC/SO. We are here to help design a framework under which future reviews can be done.
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]:Our question to each SOAC must begin with the bylaws charter for our group (slide on the screen), plus Recc 10 and
>12 (also in the slids)
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]:Kavouss -- I did not say that this question was about EXTERNAL accountability
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]:please see slids 1, 2, and 3. that's all
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]:Great to hear that it is coming soon
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]:Agree, Cheryl
Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]:Nothing further from me, Cheryl
Karen Mulberry:Next call is on 15 Sept at 1300 UTC
Sebastien (ALAC):Yes CLO
Karen Mulberry:The list of SO/AC subgroup calls is located at https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=59643284
Farzaneh Badii:Thanks all
Karen Mulberry:Its posted on the group's wiki page too
Julf Helsingius (GNSO NCPH NCA):Than you everyone!
Mary Uduma:Thanks All and Bye
Tatiana Tropina:thanks! bye
Farzaneh Badii:Thanks bye
Avri Doria:bye all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Bye all